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From Swamp Thing to Wolverine: The Wild Mind of Len Wein

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As reported by Monkeys Fighting Robots’ very own Aric Sweeny, the world of comic books lost a seminal figure last weekend. On September 10th, 2017, Len Wein died. And although he co-created several enduring characters for both DC and Marvel during his life, his name might not sound familiar, so read on …

The Wild Mind of Len Wein: A Marvel-ous Makeover

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Introducing Thunderbird!! Oh, and Nightcrawler, Storm, and Colossus as well …

In addition to co-creating fan favourite Wolverine with Roy Thomas, Herb Trimpe, and John Romita for Marvel in 1974, his and Dave Cockrum’s revamp of the X-Men in 1975, which revived Lee and Kirby’s mutant superhero team after five years on the shelf, introduced Nightcrawler, Storm, and Colossus. This new team and the new characters on it shaped the face of Marvel Comics in the late ’70s and continues to even now. That the X-Men film franchise, troubled as it is, focuses more on Wein and his creative partners’ characters than it does on Lee and Kirby’s original team from the ’60s is strong testimony against anyone who thinks otherwise.

The Wild Mind of Len Wein: Distinguished Creator

Probably Wein’s most notable achievement for DC, on top of co-creating Swamp Thing with Bernie Wrightson, was his deft editorial work on Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons’s genre-redefining series Watchmen, and if you’ve read Watchmen you know how difficult that must have been.

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“OK Al and Dave, how the Hell does this pirate ship thing relate back to the freaking superheroes again?!”

Other notable characters created by Wein for DC include Batman’s corporate liaison at Wayne Enterprises Lucius Fox, who also made it to the big screen, and the murderous Clayface III. Really, it’s difficult to overstate Wein’s influence on contemporary comic books. But luckily, you don’t have to take my word for it: Chris Claremont, who scripted the 1975 Wein/Cockrum reboot of the X-Men said it best,

“The history of modern comics would be incredibly different if you took [Wein’s] contributions out of the mix. The fact he doesn’t get credit for it half the time is disgraceful. We owe a lot of what we are — certainly on the X-Men — to Len and to Dave [Cockrum].”

High praise indeed, and well deserved.

The Wild Mind of Len Wein: Beyond Comic Books

In addition to Wein’s work on comic books, which included work for both big publishers as well as Disney, Defiant, and Bongo Comics, he also wrote and edited for several animated TV shows. And although I never watched Phantom 2040 or Pocket Dragon Adventures, I watched the heck out of four other animated shows he worked on, the ’90s versions of Spider-Man, Batman, and X-Men, and the CGI epic ReBoot.

The Wild Mind of Len Wein: Read All About It

I was quite saddened to learn of the illustrious Mr. Wein’s death, but I’m comforted by the fact that his legacy thrives. Today’s average movie-goer or comic book reader might not know it, but they’re benefiting from Wein’s deft creative writing and editing — and, to think, he originally wanted to be an artist!

Sad as it is to lose a great talent like Len Wein, it’s good to reflect upon how much he shaped the medium he worked in. And happily, this brief article has only touched upon some of Wein’s most enduring work. There are plenty of great Len Wein stories out there, so get reading!

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How ‘DC: Metal’ Anchored Me During Hurricane Irma

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Comics have always been an escape for me. They have gotten me through bullying, adolescence, homesickness, and heartbreak.  And now for the second time in my life (the first being Hurricane Andrew when I was a teenager, but that’s a story for another time), they helped me escape from the frightening onslaught of a major hurricane.

If you were in or anywhere near Florida in the past week, the name Irma was probably blaring out at you from every news outlet and social media source. And rightfully so, because as a Category 5 hurricane, Irma was destined to leave a Solomon Grundy-like path of destruction in its wake.

It was on New Comic Book day that we were pretty much told that the storm would be coming our way and for a moment it was hard to be excited about ‘funny books’. But I couldn’t help it because as a comics journalist, I was going to be receiving an advance copy of DC: Metal #2 and that was an especially exciting title. It was a book I had been looking forward to since reading issue one. With it’s over the top plot of a disaster of cosmic proportions coming, with only Batman seemingly able to stop it, it was for me the comic book event of the year. And now, of course, it had been swept by a very REAL disastrous event.DC: Metal

Now I’m not a kid and as an adult (and a home owner) I was very aware of how dangerous the situation with the storm was. The weather experts were using the term ‘catastrophic’ when it came to property damage. Predictions on storm surge were deadly. I both feared for my life and feared for my home.  But there is only so much ‘doomsday prepping’ one can do. Only so much “The End is Nigh” (sorry Rorschach!) anyone can take. So I once again I turned to comics. I loaded that copy of issue two of DC: Metal on my tablet, and opened up issue one as a refresher. But then I wanted to go further back, so I found The Casting and The Forge one shots and just started there again. Soon I was transported. Batman’s race to face a catastrophe of his own head on was an eerie parallel for what I felt; city, friends, and family were all in danger for both of us. But Batman’s resilience started to become my own. I started becoming less scared, feeling MORE prepared. In a way, I had started thinking like Batman would. I had contingency plans, I was ready. And then I remembered something writer Scott Snyder had said about Batman in an interview. He said “He’s not a really a figure of intimidation so much as he is this broad almost international figure of bravery. And he says I’m going to fight these incredibly abstract huge monstrous things in the form of my villains so that you will go out and face the things that seem insurmountable to you.” One word stood out from that great quote: seem. It all came together then; it all fell into a very focused perspective. The stories, the title Metal, Batman, the hurricane. And to top it all off, I was even wearing a classic Batman symbol t-shirt (a detail I had forgotten as that morning I just pulled the first shirt I grabbed out of the dryer).

So when the eye of the storm hit, when the wind was howling like an escaped Arkham lunatic, when the roof was shaking like Gotham during the Cataclysm, when the water pushed under the door with enough force to bring in Killer Croc, I felt a sense of calm and focus I honestly didn’t think I would have. I patiently and serenely guided my mother (who was with me) and my dog to gather in the safest spot in the house, the cave-like windowless center. I used my smart phone’s weather radar and the radio broadcast of the coverage to track the storm as it crossed my path (the meteorologist serving as the Alfred Pennyworth in my ear). In short, I  felt I was ready to react to anything that would happen, just like Batman in the books.DC: Metal

And then the storm passed. The waters never rose and the wind died down. Yes, there was damage, but it could have been worse. I had gotten through it all with the help of a fictional character. And as I always say, whatever works is always good. Value can be found in anything if it gives something to you. And DC: Metal gave it to me. I don’t know how THAT story ends yet, but I know Batman will pull through. That is the power of comics I think, of all stories really, to remind you of things you sometimes forget. That no matter the odds, we can always pull through.

*I know I was lucky to not have seen the worst of the outcome of this storm and I urge everyone to please research, read and educate yourselves on what happened. I was fortunate and many were not. That is not lost on me. We owe it to everyone to know their stories.

*I didn’t include any pictures of the storm from my end because I didn’t take any. I literally could not go outside.  And besides, there are far braver and more talented photographers that captured those images.

*Here is a link to an ABC News article with various places to contribute and help if you can.

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Short Teaser Released For Marvel’s ‘The Punisher’

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A new, fourteen second teaser for Marvel’s The Punisher has been released.

Taking out those who wronged him with military precision.

Posted by Marvel's The Punisher on Tuesday, September 12, 2017

“Taking out those who wronged him with military precision.”

The Punisher stars Jon Bernthal as the title role and also features Jason R. Moore as Curtis Hoyle, Ebon Moss-Bachrach as David Lieberman, Michael Nathanson as Sam Stein, Jaime Ray Newman as Sarah Lieberman, and Deborah Ann-Woll as Karen Page.

“Frank Castle is haunted and hunted after the murder of his family and becomes a vigilante known in the criminal underworld as “the Punisher”, who aims to fight crime by any means necessary.”

The Punisher hits Netflix in 2017; no specific release date has been announced yet.

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‘Mech Cadet Yu’ #2 Continues To Soar

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It’s Stanford’s first day at school, and he and his mech will have to see if they can keep up with the other students.

Writing

After being selected by one of the robots, Stanford finds himself welcomed into the robot pilot training program. This is where the issues continues to expand on the world and ramifications of the pathway opened to the young boy. A lot of good events play out like Standord’s mom having to sign a release form, Stanford bonding with the Maintenance crew, and the cadets naming their robots help to show how much they have bonded. These events all help to make the series feel more real and alive.

Writer Greg Pak is slowly building towards something big here. By the end of the issue, there is a lot of setup for what is to come, and the future looks bright, but not for the characters. Also, there seems to be nods to Neon Genesis Evangelion present as it appears as if the human race doesn’t much understanding of the technology at their fingertips.

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Artwork

The art by Takashi Miyazawa continues to help make the series so recognizable. Each of the different robots have their own distinct look and personality thanks solely to the visuals. The action scenes also have a gravity thanks to the art and make every turn of the page more enjoyable.

Conclusion

Mech Cadet Yu is a fun series with a lot of heart. The second issue continues to showcase the world the creator has in mind and the potential it has in the future. If you haven’t taken the time to check out this comic series, you are missing out on something good. Also, by the end of this issue it becomes apparent the drama and intensity is going to be kicked into high gear with issue three so this is the perfect time to read the first two issues and wait in anticipation for more Mech Cadet Yu.

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‘Tragedy Girls’ Trailer: Is Horror Seeing The Birth Of a New Subgenre?

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Tragedy Girls is the story of a group of teens who decide to use social media in order to become famous serial killers, or something along those lines… The trailer is fascinating, and this paired with the psychological thriller Ingrid Goes West might be the indication of a new subgenre of horror cinema: the social media horror.

Check out this trailer:

“Best friends Sadie and McKayla are on a mission to boost their social media fandom as amateur crime reporters hot on the trail of a deranged local serial killer. After they manage to capture the killer and secretly hold him hostage, they realize the best way to up get scoops on future victims would be to, you know, murder people themselves. As the @TragedyGirls become an overnight sensation and panic grips their small town, can their friendship survive the strain of national stardom? Will they get caught? Will their accounts get verified?”

It has all the familiar high school dark humor of Heathers, and a healthy dose of teen gore, only the landscape has been vastly upgraded to show obsession with media, internet fame, and followers. There was that film Unfriended, a decent horror with a ghost haunting a video chat space; but this, and Ingrid Goes West where Aubrey Plaza plays an internet stalker, indicate a burgeoning sea change for what popular horror might be over the next few years.


Tragedy Girls could be the tip of the spear, a.k.a. the moment when these new social media thrillers haven’t become tepid, saturated to the point of absurdity. That shouldn’t take long, so enjoy a movie like Tragedy Girls before the imitators come calling.

It will open October 20th.

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Nicolas Cage Reaches Peak Cage, Will Fight a Jaguar on a Boat for ‘Primal’

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Nicolas Cage. What else is there to say about this man? This American treasure (or should I say, Nationa… no, I won’t), who has transformed into one of the most legendary B-movie shlock action trash savants we have ever seen. Once an interesting young talent, then an Oscar winner, then an action star, and now paying off debts left and right and keeping studios like Hannibal in business.

It seems now that Nicolas Cage will reach peak Cage in Primal, his new action movie where he will fight a jaguar on a boat.

Oh, and not just a jaguar, mind you. Here’s the Hollywood Reporter explaining it:

Frank Walsh (Cage), a big game hunter for zoos who has booked passage on a Greek shipping freighter with a fresh haul of exotic and deadly animals from the Amazon, including a rare white jaguar. However, the big cat isn’t the most deadly creature on board. Richard Loffler, a political assassin being extradited to the U.S in secret, is also along for the ride. Two days into their journey, Loffler escapes the team of U.S. Marshals guarding him and releases the captive animals, throwing the ship into chaos. Walsh must now find a way to save the crew from not only the dangerous beasts, but also the mad man on the loose.

Yeah, we got marshals and assassins and jaguars… and Nicolas Cage. I’m not saying place money down on Oscar nominations, I’m just saying think about it.


There’s no news as to the release of Primal. It will likely have a trailer where we will all collectively chuckle, then next thing you know you’ll pass a Redbox at the grocery store and there it’ll be.

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‘Vice Principals’ Episode One Review: Gamby Is Out For Revenge

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The first episode of Vice Principals is reminiscent of the dark humor which made Eastbound & Down a hit.

Summary

The final season of Vice Principals centers around Neal Gamby’s (Danny McBride) quest to find out who shot him at the end of the first season. Gamby suspects everyone at North Jackson High and enlists the help of a psychotic pal, brand new principal Lee Russell (Walton Goggins) to track him down. Could one of his own students be the culprit behind his attack or could it be the one person he considers a friend?

What Worked

The chemistry between Gamby and Russell is undeniable. Those two characters are the pillars that hold this comedic narrative in place.

The writing in the first episode is darker than Season 1 which is a good thing.

Goggins plays his character with the right amount of comedy and sleaze. The audience doesn’t know whether to laugh with him or at him.

McBride’s character in the second season is very reminiscent of his iconic character Kenny Powers. Just like Powers, Gamby is losing touch with reality going so far as to turn his bedroom into a diorama reminiscent of the Kennedy Assassination.

Busy Phillips is hysterical in the role of Gale. Her character is the perfect mix of white trash and someone who’d be arrested on Cops.

The first episode of season two is very inviting to new fans of the series. Someone could easily just jump into the series and not miss a beat.

Towards the end of the first episode, Dr. Belinda Brown (Kimberly Herbert Gregory) makes a return after leaving town at the end of last season. Brown is the perfect foil for Gamby’s character. It would be foolish for them not to incorporate that character into the new season.

What Didn’t Work

Too much time was spent on Gamby’s recovery and not enough time was given to his triumphant return to North Jackson High. The first episode takes off when he’s back to interacting with the students and faculty rather than moping about.

Overall

Vice Principals hasn’t lost a step and is off to a great start in its second season. This isn’t shocking as Mcbride and his talented writing partner, Jody Hill, are extremely gifted writers. I’m sure if HBO could convince Mcbride and Hill to stretch this series for a third and fourth season, the quality would remain consistent. However, it appears that the talented writing duo is committed to just seeing this storyline play out and fans can’t wait to see the end result.

 

 

 

 

 

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Obsession, Destruction, and Darren Aronofsky

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Darren Aronofsky has zero chill.

That’s what makes him so fascinating, no matter the project, no matter the setting, no matter who the character is under the microscope. Whether his film unravels in the cramped hallways of a Brooklyn apartment building, under the spotlight of the ballet, or in the wrathful landscape of the Old Testament, Darren Aronofsky is here to use his characters’ obsessions and addictions to break them down. He uses the vulnerability of high-focused obsession to destroy his characters, or at least destroy the place in which they have found themselves.

It may not sound like an appealing afternoon at the cinema to most and that makes sense. Aronofsky’s films are often armed to the teeth on a psychological level, never ready to shy away from the provocative imagery or disturbing depths of addiction. They aren’t for most even. With mother!, his latest horror starring Jennifer Lawrence, he will undoubtedly wade back into the waters of addiction, even if it may not be as clear cut as it was in his previous protagonists.

Pi was crystal clear: Max (Sean Gullette) has dedicated his life to finding a loophole in the stock market, even if the obsession drives him too insane to enjoy the fruits of a seemingly impossible labor. Requiem For A Dream is an even clearer examination of addiction, at least when it comes to the trio of dope-sick drifters played brilliantly by Jared Leto, Jennifer Connelly, and Marlon Wayans. But Ellen Burstyn’s Sarah Goldfarb, lonely and tucked away in her lifeless apartment, has her own addictions.

There is the television, the remote control fetishized by the pop-art camera work of longtime Aronofsky collaborator Matthew Libatique. There are her chocolates, sexualized by  Goldfarb’s roaming fingers. And when she mistakenly believes she is going to be on the television herself, the obsession to trim off the weight becomes her ultimate undoing. It is the most profoundly affecting examination of addiction in Aronofsky’s career-long journey across the topic.

The Fountain, his long-gestating follow up to Requiem, may tell the story of his character Tommy (Hugh Jackman), who journeys across time and space to try and find a cure for death in order to live forever with his love (Rachel Weisz); but it also tells the story of Darren Aronofsky’s own obsessive nature, as his determination for The Fountain to be a sprawling science-fiction/fantasy epic was ultimately tinkered with and trimmed down by undoubtedly nervous and confounded studio suits to a brisk 90 minutes. It may be a mess, but it may also be the most personal glimpse into the powers of addiction throughout the course of his own career.

His next two films, The Wrestler and Black Swan, proved to be his most successful set of films – depending on your definition of success, that is. Both films found strong audience numbers, terrific Awards season buzz, and Natalie Portman won an Oscar for her turn as Nina, the mentally fractured young ballerina in Black Swan (Mickey Rourke deserved the Best Actor Oscar in 2008 for The Wrestler, but was inexplicably beat out by Sean Penn, who was… fine?… in Milk). They’re obsessions are clear, right on the surface, and they both involve physicality and self-mutilation for the sake of success – or fame.


The addiction and eventual madness of Noah never hit the sort of biblical proportions that the film needed, but credit to him for creating such a detailed, individualistic depiction of the place and time. Noah deserves more credit for its reach than its grasp, and Russell Crowe is game to put this Noah through the ringer as his obsession soon becomes his undoing. The addiction is, in a sense, the word of God, which Noah refuses to break regardless of the damage it could do to his family.

Which brings us to mother!, his take on Rosemary’s Baby. Or something along those lines. But the addiction here feels more opaque. It may be obsession with conception; it’s an avenue Aronofsky hasn’t quite tackled head on. The addiction isn’t as clear this time, not as much as his previous films, but make no mistake it will be lurking in this madhouse thriller somewhere. One thing is clear whether their is addiction at the heart of mother! or not, Darren Aronofsky will put Jennifer Lawrence through the ringer.

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5 Things ‘The Orville’ Needs To Do To Erase Miserable First Episode

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RED ALERT! Billed as the spiritual successor to Galaxy Quest, Seth MacFarlane’s new show The Orville copy/pastes the Family Guy creator’s same old jokes and adds millions in effects. Let’s get this out of the way from the start. If you’re looking for this to be something like GQ the TV show, then you will be sorely disappointed. Wait for the Amazon reboot. The Orville is less GQ and more an attempt by MacFarlane to fulfill a childhood dream of being on a Star Trek show, which is great. He even utters a line about a boyhood dream not two minutes into the first episode. More power to him. But this isn’t a Star Trek show, and so the dream should take a form with its own direction and purpose. Instead, it’s Macfarlane’s usual shtick in space.

The Orville stars Seth MacFarlane (he also wrote and created the show) as Captain Ed Mercer, a talented starship officer who falls on hard times when he finds his wife cheating on him with an alien. Cue the first dick joke. Mercer is given one last chance to command a ship of his own, the titular Orville. To make it as contrived as possible, his ex-wife (Adrianne Palicki), also an officer, is assigned as his second-in-command. In the first episode, they’re sent on a uninteresting mission which becomes a battle ground between Mercer and the antagonist aliens known as the Krill.

1Don’t Let Seth MacFarlane Write Episodes

Yes, he created Family Guy and American Dad. And yes, we know MacFarlane has a huge following. MacFarlane is wildly talented. But for many others, he’s hit or miss.

MacFarlane’s biggest issue is that he’s a one-trick pony. It’s dick and fart jokes and pop culture references. In a modern world setting or animated show, it’s great. In a show taking place 400 years into the future, where the dynamics of language should have changed, it’s just dull. It’s proof MacFarlane can’t write anything else but Family Guy-style stuff. So, like Star Trek, the show should use an ace team of writers who can balance out the humor with the drama. MacFarlane clearly can’t contain himself from inserting jokes into every damn scene no matter how out of place or out of character it is. That will ruin Orville quickly.

2Less Humor, More Character And Purpose

The Orville’s first episode just plods along. And while it has to suffer a little with introducing new people to viewers, it doesn’t have to be done in such an uninspired fashion.

All the characters are introduced in a lineup of lazy writing. “You are Character X, you’re species is known for this, <insert joke>” on to the next character. That’s about five minutes of the show as it goes character by character. Director Jon Favreau begins an epic pan around Mercer and Isaac, a crew member from a planet of AI lifeforms who thinks all humanoids are inferior. Isaac is a “racist” robot as Mercer puts it because MacFarlane can’t bring himself to be less doltish. As the camera pans around, the the characters talk about “racism” (which would be “species-ism” if MacFarlane were actually clever). There is an expectation to end the shot with a punchline. Instead, the shot ends, there is no real joke or purpose to it, and we’re on to the next scene.

The show borrows plenty from Star Trek: The Next Generation. However, it completely forgets that in the first episode, which is plenty cringe-worthy, each character is introduced with a bit of patience. And the characters get to SHOW who they are, not just tell us.

3Homage Or Spoof?

Are you sending up sci-fi tropes or are you honoring them with a fresh take on it all your own? MacFarlane can’t seem to decide if he wants the show to be Spaceballs or Galaxy Quest. The former is a brilliant spoof of Star Wars, and the latter is a brilliant homage to Trek. Both are comedies, but one, the homage, also has drama while the other, the spoof, does not. Spaceballs is silly because that’s what spoofs are supposed to be. The Orville bounces between spoof and homage and doesn’t function as either.

It seems as if MacFarlane wanted to make a spoof. But he quickly realized that it wouldn’t hold up well for an hour-long TV series. Particularly one that’s supposed to run for multiple episodes and seasons. Spoofs wear out quickly, and The Orville is proof of that.

4Don’t Undercut Drama Or Action With Jokes

One of the biggest things that plague the first episode of The Orville is a problem persistent throughout A LOT of modern shows and movies. It’s the undercutting of drama with a joke. It happens in basically every Marvel movie, Star Wars, and beyond. A scene plays out that’s supposed to be important for the film. The scene is meant to create a weight and add drama. But then, as if producers are scared of leaving a scene on a serious tone, they add in a one-liner joke. The quip basically makes the entire scene a joke and thereby, erasing all dramatic tension and becoming meaningless.That happens repeatedly here because, again, MacFarlane simply can’t help himself.

5Build The World

The biggest flaw of The Orville is that MacFarlane is just doing his modern day thing. There’s almost no difference between future Earth and our Earth as if culture stopped evolving. Look back 100 years, and words used then are dead now. Look back 200, 300, 400 years and even more words have vanished or evolved. That’s the nature of humans, we change, and language evolves. And just like how we don’t say “top of the morning to you” and instead say “good morning” or even just “morning,” the people in the show should feel like they’re in their world, not ours.

Star Trek has plenty of bad episodes. But it always kept you in the sense of being in a future world. Even when Kirk and Spock were on a planet or in a time that was much like their modern-day Earth, the pair were still clearly aliens. The entirety of Star Trek IV plays up this fish-out-of-water thing. However, MacFarlane’s Mercer could travel back to today and no one would think he’s from the future.

We’re not ruling out The Orville.

MacFarlane always writes like he’s in the now, no matter if it’s western or sci-fi. And for the most part, when it comes to animated works, it’s not a big deal. We expect less of those details from cartoons. But this is a multi-million dollar live-action TV show and it comes off as supremely lazy writing. And the lovely sets and effects make MacFarlane’s weak script and one-trick comedy stand out like a sore thumb.

We’re not ruling out The Orville. There is plenty of potential, such as the positive tone that truly reflects the show’s Star Trek inspiration. Also, the effects are pretty fantastic for a network show. And a we should not judge a show based solely on the first episode. But if the same lack of cleverness continues on, it’s going to be hard to boldly keep going anywhere with this show.

The Trek to ‘Star Trek: Discovery’

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Back in May of 2005, Star Trek: Enterprise ended its 4-season run to less than mediocre reviews. It was the end of an era. After nearly 40 years of (mostly) consistent programming, be it on television or the big screen, Star Trek’s impulse engines came to a full stop.

Thankfully, Star Trek returned the big screen in the 2009 J.J. Abrams alternate timeline/reboot, followed by Into Darkness in 2013 and Beyond in 2016. Though many Trek loyalists saw this new take as a far cry from the source material, it injected a much-needed boost of adrenaline in a staling franchise.

Cut to 2017, where the airwaves (or stream-waves, rather) are ready to activate their warp drives with Star Trek: Discovery, a new story in the prime timeline set 10 years before Kirk’s deep space mission on the Enterprise.

In that decade-plus gap, there have been many attempts to get Trek back on TV, as well as the big screen, that were not successful. Here’s a look at the shows and movies proposed to revive Star Trek between the time of the cancellation of Enterprise in 2005 and the premiere of Discovery this month.

9American Trek Story

Back in November 2015, a brand new Star Trek series was given the greenlight. Bryan Fuller (Hannibal, American Gods) was at the helm. However, the concept that would eventually evolve into Discovery didn’t start out that way.

“The original pitch was to do for science fiction what American Horror Story had done for horror,” Fuller said in an interview with Entertainment Weekly earlier this year. “It would platform a universe of Star Trek shows.”

Initially, the Discovery story was only meant to last for one season, followed by a new crew on a new ship in a different era in the prime timeline, and so on and so forth.

CBS executives were wary about the concept, and opted to move forward with a straightforward Discovery series, with each season having an overarching story. Fuller, not too happy with that decision, stepped down from running the show in October 2016, but would stay on as a writer and consulting producer.

However, as production began, Fuller drifted further away from Discovery, having numerous disagreements with CBS’s decisions. Gretchen J. Berg and Aaron Harberts eventually took over as showrunners.

Would you have liked to see any of these Star Trek series or films actually happen? Let us know in the comments.

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