Pfft, a masterpiece? My ass. DC is for edgy teens that think placing all that philosophical bullshit makes a movie an adult masterpiece.

An opinion can’t be false. Humor is subjective oh and 90% of MCU movies are better than BvS.

That’s actually Ironic because DC films try to be dark and edgy in the most childish ways possible.

Those are minor flaws compared to the flaws in BvS. BvS wasn’t as big in scope or as complex as you fanboys think it is. Mind you Civil War was flawed and not the best MCU movie but it was still better than the abysmal BvS.

Yes, there is clear standards to decide if a movie is bad, moron. It’s called “filmmaking.” How was the film made and how well did it execute what it set out to do! There is an obvious way to tell if a movie is bad. For example, Batman v. Superman was bad because:
– boring/flat characters (Superman, Lois Lane)
– Lois Lane storyline goes nowhere and is completely pointless to the film. Yet, it’s here anyway.
– the storyline is just dull and uninteresting really. I’m all for a movie trying to tell a plot that isn’t just a simple “bad guy wants to take over the world,” I want something that tries to be more. So I was into the idea that it wasn’t trying to be something like that, but it’s just executed badly and it comes out dull.
– some bad acting (Henry Cavill, Jesse Eisenberg)
– The film’s pacing is awful.
– The dialogue is bad.
– Wonder Woman is there to be a Deus Ex Machina.
– Generic, bloated CGI monster fight ending
– Batman fights Superman because he thinks he can destroy the planet. Superman fights Batman….because “complex plot.” He didn’t just say, “Hey, my mom is in trouble I need your help.” (Also, who calls their mom by their first name like that? It’s not like he calls his mom Martha all the time, he’s called her mom no problem. Why all the sudden you say “Martha?” But that is a nitpick)
– Lex unleashes Doomsday to kill Superman in case Batman doesn’t. If they couldn’t kill Doomsday, then what? You have the same problem just worse.
– Why does Batman not do any research on Clark? He just wants to kill him to keep the planet safe, but doesn’t try to talk with Superman, figure out what kind of guy Superman is, or just do, any research besides information on kryptonite Lex has.
– Why does Batman chase Lex’s cargo in a batmobile chase scene where he kills several goons, when he put a tracker on the truck and could of just snuck into wherever it was going (which he ends up doing later in the movie so WTF)
– Why does Batman kill people? (Don’t reference any comics or anything not present in this film. Imagine you have never heard of Batman or any of the loire.) They never mention why he does what he does, it’s only inferred by comic book readers as to why he does what he does. But never mentioned in the film (don’t need a big, exposition filled description, just something given in the film to be a reason why he kills, or why he even still does the Batman thing anyway).
– Why does Superman always know where Lois is and always manages to save her, however he doesn’t know where his own mother is at?
– Lois and Clark have an underdeveloped love story. There isn’t one indicator that proves that they even like each other. She didn’t tell people his story in Man of Steel, big whoop. That’s a nice thing someone did, doesn’t mean she obviously loves the guy. There is nothing the two do that show that they like each other. They both never develop their characters or their relationship to where the audience doesn’t give two shits about them.
– Superman always looks depressed and is not Superman. He acts like all he wants is some recognition for doing good things, which is not a Superman characteristic at all. Superman is suppose to be a good and humble person, always doing the right thing no matter what. This Superman gets depressed when some people say mean things about him, but he looks even more depressed when people are praising him like his father said they would (look at the Mexico scene with the people putting their hands on him).
– Bruce Wayne stumbles into a private server room at Lex’s house and the ONLY SECURITY there is a woman saying “hey you can’t be in here.” To which Bruce acts stupid, and the lady just leaves and assumes he will leave to. Really? You’d just walk away and let him stay in there?
– The Dream sequences. Pointless and nothing more than to just give fan service and set up future films. It adds nothing to the movie and here’s why. It’s a DREAM! If Bruce Wayne, the world’s greatest detective, makes a decision on whether or not he should kill someone based on a dream he had about him taking over the world, he’s a bigger idiot than I thought. As for the Flash premonition, how does he know that’s real? How does he know it isn’t a part of the dream maybe? And why would he trust some weird thing he might or might not of saw?
– How does Lex make Doomsday? It involves pouring his blood on Zod’s face and putting him in a Kryptonian ship? How does that equal Doomsday?
– Why does Lex need Zod’s body from the government guy? He already experimented on the body when he found out that kryponite affected the blood cells. Why would he need to persuade the government guy that he needed it if he already had it?
– The Jolly Rancher thing. Stupid.
– Why would they send a journalist/reporter (Lois) to Africa to talk to some terrorist leader? And why would they put the tracker in the camera!? The most obvious spot for a tracker is where they decide to hide the tracker. And the guy gets killed for it. Oh, by the way, that’s Jimmy Olsen. Surprise. Snyder said that’s his way of “having fun with the character.” What’s next? Batman gets raped in prison (Oh wait, Snyder actually said he would’ve done that if he directed The Dark Knight Rises. Great job Zack, you really are a visionary.)
– Why do people think Superman shot and killed the people in Africa? I guess they didn’t know Superman used guns.
– Why would Lex Luthor privately create and distribute ammunition to terrorist organizations? Ammunition that could be pinned back to him? Why not just regular ammunition?
– Lex Luthor hates anything resembling a God, or anything with unlimited power basically. Then why does he create Doomsday? The most powerful being. Why would he create something like that? Why would he not just shoot Superman with a kryptonite bullet or something like that? Boom. Problem solved.
– Why does Superman sacrifice himself to kill Doomsday when Wonder Woman could’ve done it as well? Was it to prove himself to the people?
– Why would the people automatically love Superman now? It’s a repeat of what happened in Man of Steel except he died in this one. Now all the sudden people feel like he’s accepted this time. I could see them more like “Thank God that’s over with, back to our normal lives.”
– Why does Batman place the spear so far away from him when he fights with Superman? It was pretty convenient that Superman fought with him in the general direction of where he wanted him to go.
– How did Batman not get injured during the fight? He is thrown through a building, pushed down several stories, thrown through stalls. How does he walk out without a scratch, besides a torn up helmet?
– Batman kills hundreds of goons and henchmen but decides to not kill Luthor or even brand him. I get it, he’s suppose to be a changed man. But that didn’t stop him from killing the henchmen after he had that whole Martha epiphany moment. No consistency.
– Also, to respond to what the author of the article said about color use, what movie did you see? The colors are muted in this film. What bright colors did you see when Superman was on screen? I didn’t see it. His character was on par with Batman’s which isn’t Superman at all.

Bam. There’s several reasons why I didn’t find this movie to be good. Not because I don’t get it or couldn’t see the ambition there. But because it’s a poorly made movie. Plain and simple. You fanboys act like you guys discovered the wheel, and that movie critics are just stupid and don’t understand a complex movie when they see one. Complex movies are movies like Inception, Enemy, Primer, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Brazil, Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining, Stalker, Don’t Look Now, etc. Most critics know what they’re talking about, they see hundreds of movies a year and their job is to think about them and critique how well they were done. This isn’t a complex movie. It’s complex in how bad it tells its story.
Just for the record, I don’t hate this film. I just think it’s meh. It is definitely not a masterpiece, I doubt there is any out there. It’s not some complex superhero movie, you want to see a complex superhero movie, go watch Unbreakable. This is no Unbreakable, if anything, I relate this to The Amazing Spider-man 2, and who knows, there’s probably comic book fanboys defending that boring movie and calling it Citizen Kane as well for all I know.

civil bore superior movie nice joke, maybe its superior to dumb and dumber and thats about it.

What the hell? You cannot prove Man of Steel is a terrible movie mathematically. You can never prove a movie is terrible objectively. There is no clear standards about how a movie is judge. So please, stop. Second, if you are going to say “It was a terrible movie”, then please do explain why. You just sound like a hater otherwise.

You nailed it bro. Thank you.

This movie not being that popular is a point to its magnificent manufacturing. Not all people has even enough attention span to get the best films. Or they do but they surrender easily.

Lex knew of the “meta humans”. He was using this knowledge to his pyschotic advantage.

The movie requires your full attention (dialogue). Unlike some other Superhero movies.

I don’t know if it has a name but it looks and could be a recreating of Paradise Lost, one of the paintings I mentioned within the article.

you right movies shouldnt try to please everyone, just china. like these dc movies.

it was a terrible movie. It can be proven mathematically. Im sorry that you are so butthurt that people point out that you like a terrible movie. Talking bad about a good movie isnt going to make the bad one you like any better. Sorry you like a terrible movie. live with it and stop attacking people over their opinions.

Of course it’s stupid with that reading. But that is not what Lex was trying to do. He was trying to instigate (through media and politics) a negative public sentiment on the “idea” of Superman as a hero. That’s why Lexus pays the African Lady that say “If I could talk to Superman, I’don’t ask him how he decides which lives count and which ones do not?”. Also in the end Lex says “The camera’so are waiting at the ship to see the holes in the unholy”. He trying to sway the public sentiment into hating Superman to justify his the murder of a public Hero (A potential tyrant like his father).

I think the movie is alienating to people who watch the movie solely with a comics fan’site expectations. This movie is a political drama movie masterpiece with superheroes in it. Superman = Demoratic America, Batman = Republican America and Lex = Lobbyist/Special Interest groups that stand in the way of common sense resolutions to the issues of America.

The movie is an Allegory that understands America and Superhero mythology in so esoteric of a fashion it’s almost unfair to the audience it was marketed to.

He can’t. Anyone who says the movie ” is not cohesive ” probably only said it because they heard one critique (who probably was not paying attention to the movie) say it and ran off with it. They never show proof to back up anything. And if they try its always something subjective/ personal rather than critical and objective.

Oh my god, that makes so much sense. Like, how am I supposed to care that Superman and Batman are hurting regular old human beings but then the Senate gets blown up and it only matters that hey maybe Superman did it? There’s not even an afterthought given to how much that would fuck up everything. No, what’s really important is that a guy Batman knew was there, not, you know, democracy.

Thank you. I just saw this last night and it was just difficult to watch Batman be an angry asshole for nearly 3 hours. Everything telegraphed Superman’s goodness, because he had parents instead of money. He had a job, he had a girlfriend, he goes before the senate when he’s subpoenaed… meanwhile, Bateman works out in a basement with his bestie who is also an employee, grabs girls at parties who don’t want to talk to him and Lex steals their pictures and has a rage baby with a spaceship.

Kind of a good metaphor for 2016 but an awful awful movie.

I couldn’t agree any more. Seems like whatever you do you just can’t please anyone these days. I like the dark, gritty, more mature attitude and feeling of DC movies. And any real Batman fan would be a liar if they said that they didn’t get excited when they saw Batman brutally and ruthlessly beating foes to a pulp,